[haXe] Debugger Request.

[Lee McColl-Sylvester]

I admire your honesty ;-)

Lee




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[mailto:haxe-bounces at lists.motion-twin.com] On Behalf Of hank williams
Sent: 22 August 2006 14:43
To: The haXe compiler list
Subject: Re: [haXe] Debugger Request.

On 8/22/06, Lee McColl-Sylvester <lee.mccoll at lyons-group.co.uk> wrote:
> I have to say here that I find an IDE to be of little importance to a
> language.

We are all entitled to our opinion. But obviously most programmers
like a good IDE. Thats why Eclipse, and the microsoft tools are so
successful. People like it.

Most developers prefer syntax highlighting at least, as most
> developers are poor at spelling (hey, it's a known fact ;-) ).
>
> I think, as a language, haXe hits all the major points.

>From a language perspective I agree.

While a
> debugger would be nice, there are alternatives for the time being.
For
> Flash, you could always use a combination of Alcon and John Grden's
> X-Ray,

I like john, and xray is good for what it is, but it does not compare
to a real debugger. It is of course true that you can program without
a debugger. The truth is flash, until recently, didnt have much of
one. But that does not mean it is the most productive way to program.
The issue for me is comparing the flex2 environment and AS3 to haXe.
For me, the ability to debug is critical, and I am 2x more productive
with a good debugger vs Xray, which I used. I have always been far
more productive in Java than flash because of the quality of the
tools. Flex2 evens that out.

 while for JavaScript, you have the same resources open to any
> other JavaScript development tool.

agreed.

Granted, Neko will need something in
> the future, but this is an open source project, so why not get a team
> together and develop one yourself?  :-)
>

Honestly, I cant afford to work on a major development project for the
public good. I am pleased that others have the time and/or the
business motivation to do so. But I honestly hate the oft suggested
line that "if you dont like it fix it yourself". The most useful thing
that users of a product can do is tell the truth. If the truth should
be hidden for any problem that I dont intend to fix myself then there
is not much point to conversation. We should all just shut up. I dont
think any smart developer wants that. I know for my work, I want the
brutal, unvarnished truth.

Regards,
Hank

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