[haXe] Debugger Request.

[Martin Heidegger]

The problem of developing a debugger by yourself is that this would be a
difficult action right into to basic compiler stuff. Even if I would know
Ocaml better it would be hard to get every idea that Nicolas (&co?) put into
the code, since you need all of them for writing the proper debugger. This
does not concern the certain IDE which of course can be provided by others.
The bigger part is hidden within the compiler support. I am happy that
Nicolas is interested in the JS version, especially since it would be unique
for the IE platform.

yours
Martin.

2006/8/22, Lee McColl-Sylvester <lee.mccoll at lyons-group.co.uk>:
>
> I have to say here that I find an IDE to be of little importance to a
> language.  Most developers prefer syntax highlighting at least, as most
> developers are poor at spelling (hey, it's a known fact ;-) ).
>
> I think, as a language, haXe hits all the major points.  While a
> debugger would be nice, there are alternatives for the time being.  For
> Flash, you could always use a combination of Alcon and John Grden's
> X-Ray, while for JavaScript, you have the same resources open to any
> other JavaScript development tool.  Granted, Neko will need something in
> the future, but this is an open source project, so why not get a team
> together and develop one yourself?  :-)
>
> Lee
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: haxe-bounces at lists.motion-twin.com
> [mailto:haxe-bounces at lists.motion-twin.com] On Behalf Of Nicolas
> Cannasse
> Sent: 22 August 2006 14:18
> To: The haXe compiler list
> Subject: Re: [haXe] Debugger Request.
>
> >>The value of a debugger decrease partly of the quality of exceptions
> >>reports you get. Now that both Flash9 and Neko can get complete stack
> >>trace on exceptions, with planned supported for Flash<=8 and JS as
> well,
> >>the amount of work needed to develop a debugger does not match its
> >>usefulness.
> >
> >
> > This is just wrong. If it were true that the value of a debugger
> > doesnt match the effort then the zillions of other languages that have
> > debuggers wouldnt have them, because it wouldnt be worth it.
>
> Before this thread go wild, I would like to precise that I didn't meant
> at any time that a debugger was not useful. I have been using C debugger
> for a long time and I know its value and capabilities.
>
> I will eventually work in the future on something for haXe (especially
> the JS part which seems funny to do) but I have others priorities right
> now.
>
> > By the way. I am not suggesting a debugger for JS. That is likely
> > impossible. But for Neko and Flash 9+ it is totally doable. For flash,
> > you are expecting people to give up a totally modern kick ass IDE
> > debugger, environment and framework, for some improved (though very
> > similar) language syntax?
>
> haXe improvments are not about the syntax. I don't mean to be rude but
> if you restrict your view of language differences to syntax changes then
> you really don't get what a programming language is about.
>
> Nicolas
>
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